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Mar 26, 2016 1:19 PM

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http://myanimelist.net/anime/1520/Black_Jack
The OVA started in 1993 and ended in 2000. That's the whole OVA, ending with episode 10.
A decade later, after the director has passed away, people decided to pay him a tribute by making two more episodes called 'Black Jack Final'.
Now the question is, why is that one entry on MAL? It wasn't a production break or anything. The OVA was finished at episode 10, and 11 years later they made a sequel. Why wasn't the Final OVA added as a sequel but was rather merged as one entry? It's also a recent edit well into the split cour era, so it's not a case like Card Captor Sakura (which was still a production break, rather than sequels).
Can some mods explain me why Black Jack Final is merged with Dezaki's Black Jack and not set as a sequel?
Mar 26, 2016 1:21 PM

1 Abystoma Black Jack OVA Extras (BD 720p) 569.2 MiB: 2020-12-01 13:48: 8: 1: 114 SAIO-Raws 谁来拯救草食系男子 Rescue Me! OVA BD 1920x1080 HEVC-10bit. RiP Black Jack OVA: 6.9 GiB: 2013-06-08 15:07: 3: 0: 72 update Black Jack 01-22: 1.0 GiB: 2013-05-14 03:02: 0: 2: 232: Black Jack OP 月光花 - Gekkouka by Janne. 1 ブラック・ジャック 劇場版 (OVA) (Black Jack) 1.3 GiB: 2014-11-16 09:51: 0: 4: 0 OtakuMura Black Jack no Yuuwaku Complete MangaReader 13.3 MiB: 2014-11-15 22:43: 0: 0: 0: ブラック・ジャック 劇場版 (OVA) (Black Jack) 1.2 GiB: 2014-11-06 00:06: 0: 0: 59: ブラック・ジャック FINAL (OVA) (Black Jack. This is a list of Black Jack 2004 series and 2006 anime series. The 2004 series lasted from October 11 2004 to March 6, 2006 with 62 episodes. It was directed for Tezuka Productions by Makoto Tezuka. For the list of episodes for Black Jack 21, look under List of Black Jack 21 Episodes.


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Mar 26, 2016 1:33 PM

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Mar 26, 2016 1:50 PM

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They announced the new OVA as the 11th episode back when it happened so that is how we treat the new episodes.
Source: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv49564307
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Mar 26, 2016 2:12 PM
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Is that a good enough reason though? Aren't there split cour shows that do the same with the numbers? Isn't the decade between them a good reason not to include them as one thing? It does have the Final in its name, that already makes it have a different name than the first OVA.

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Mar 26, 2016 7:19 PM

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The title of the series is different though, all the others are labeled as Black Jack, but this is subtitled Black Jack: Final
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The mods' argument is invalid, as in many series on here for multiple seasons the episode count continues from the original but is counted as a separate entry on here. Ex: Kuroko no Basket, JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Stardust Crusaders, Ushio to Tora.
AnimeDB lists them as a separate entry also
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May 11, 2016 7:32 PM

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Bump, this still needs to be addressed more thoroughly by mods rather than just using episode count as validation

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May 12, 2016 4:51 AM

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Jerkhov said:
The title of the series is different though, all the others are labeled as Black Jack, but this is subtitled Black Jack: Final
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The mods' argument is invalid, as in many series on here for multiple seasons the episode count continues from the original but is counted as a separate entry on here. Ex: Kuroko no Basket, JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Stardust Crusaders, Ushio to Tora.
AnimeDB lists them as a separate entry also
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Those are all TV Series and Black Jack is an OVA. For TV Series it makes sense to separate them if there are breaks in between the broadcasting periods, but OVAs aren't broadcast and generally released irregularly so combining them, under certain circumstances, makes more sense, which is why it says so in the Guidelines for OVAs and Specials specifically.
It's also not a special case that the 11th/12th OVA episodes had an episode subtitle attached to it. That alone doesn't mean they have to get their own entry though. The rule about combining OVAs into one entry is still relevant since it was specifically announced as the 11th episode.
If you still think what I say is invalid feel free to contact other mods, maybe you'll find one that agrees with you. But it won't be me, based on the information I have.
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